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144. Memorandum of Conversation

Congress on that. Schaufele : As long as we don’t have any illusions with how it will help with the other Africans. The Secretary: No, but it will help with Congress. Has Easum come in bleeding about Angola? Schaufele : He wants us to level with the Nigerians on what the South Africans are doing. The Secretary: Are they in with organized forces now? Sisco : Yes, that’s the real problem with the Africans. The Secretary: As many as the Cubans? Mulcahy : No, perhaps 400 but they are very effective. If they pull out of the South, the MPLA will wrap it up. The MPLA has 30,000 under arms now. Sisco …